"I don't know how you go to sleep at night.…You'rewhat's wrong with this country."

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  • Watch that projection, Jay, someone might hit their head on it.

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  • America is a kakistocracy, ruled by the worst.

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  • "....You're what's wrong with this country."

    Thats right Jay, people who innovate ways to reduce the use of disease inducing products are what is wrong with this country. You nailed it.

    Oh wait, you are a Senator from West Virginia. Hmmm. Maybe there is something you aren't telling us.

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  • It is very appropriate to trout out a quote from that old sage Mencken: Puritanism: the haunting fear that someone, somewhere is having a good time.

    Jay Rockefeller is a gigantic asshole. Aside from its primary obvious purpose of permanently hooking tweens into lifelong addiction, nicotine is useful for many people wishing to keep their weight under control. It is also an agent that has anti-anxiety properties.

    One of the worst aspects of anti-ecig zealotry is the fact that the second hand smoke nuisance and health risk argumens simply do not apply. What ever to replace the vacuum? The stupid old tired "children" argument comes into play again.

    Speaking as someone that has never used an ecig, this hysteria coupled with growing acceptance of cannabis smoking/vaping culture, is utterly baffling. Rockefeller sits there and is unaffected by the executive's use of hard data, exactly the kind of disposition we all need making public policy choices.

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  • BSubversive.com||#

    So basically our ruling TOP MEN are:

    a. evil
    b. soulless killjoys
    c. stupid fucking cunts
    d. psychopaths determined to kill as many people as possible "for the children"
    e. all of the above



    I'll go with e.

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  • Otisjay||#

    pshhh. You act like some 2 year old took a flashbang to the chest last month.

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    If you haven't acquainted yourself with Senator Rockefeller's positions on censorship, war, torture, and warrantless wiretapping, then give yourself a hollow cynical laugh here

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  • BSubversive.com||#

    Holy shit, he actually said:
    “McCain was a fighter pilot, who dropped laser-guided missiles from 35,000 feet. He was long gone when they hit. What happened when they get to the ground? He doesn’t know. You have to care about the lives of people. McCain never gets into those issues.”

    So he endorsed, the Drone King, because, he cares so much about the people he kills from thousands of miles away by proxy, not just a measly few like that evil McCain.

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  • Otisjay||#

    Shit? did they have laser gilded bombs/missiles back when McCain flew?

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  • Fist of Etiquette||#

    You don't get a name like Rockefeller without knowing what's best for commoners.

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  • UnCivilServant||#

    So all Rockefellers are adopted?

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  • dinkster||#

    When Jay Rockefeller goes to IHOP, he tells the waitress to through the fruit in the trash, see, he only eats his pancakes plane, without syrup or butter, and he washes them down with luke warm tap water, because he is an adult.

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  • Heroic Mulatto||#

    I seriously doubt John Davidson Rockefeller IV has ever stepped foot in such a "vulgar" place as IHOP. When his family's "domestic assistant" Lupita brings out his apple bulgar wheat pancakes with fresh cream, expertly crafted by the family's private chef, he washes it down with coffee brewed from a custom mix of only the finest beans flown in from the Yucatan Pennisula weekly.

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  • dinkster||#

    If he never goes to IHOP then how would he view all the amazing artwork taped to the wall drawn by the childrenz that he cares so much about?

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  • Heroic Mulatto||#

    He has assistants to view it for him. They then write up a report about it at taxpayer expense.

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    "Would I be attracted to Cherry Crush, Chocolate Treat, Peachy Keen, Vanilla Dreams? No, I wouldn't."

    You can pry my Peachy Keen flavored E-cigarettes from my cold dead hands, Jay.

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    Because the critics of "aggressive e-cigarette marketing" cannot support their charge that companies like Blu and NJoy must be targeting children, they fall back on the claim that intent does not matter. They say advertising and flavors that might appeal to minors simply cannot be tolerated, regardless of the intended audience.



    I feel like we're missing another point here. Where is the evidence that if you're under 18 e-cigarettes are bad for you? I'm sure they're not good for you, but a 15 year old pounding cans of monster is probably harming his body more than a 15 year old who is vaping.

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  • Notorious G.K.C.||#

    "Well, Senator, when I have trouble sleeping I remind myself that I didn't swell the national debt to 16 trillion dollars, and that I haven't burdened my country with unsustainable benefit programs."

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  • Otisjay||#

    Oh god. this would have been the best shit to watch.

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  • antisocial-ist||#

    Proggies really are animist aren't they? Ecigs look just like those evil cancer sticks, and are therefore infused with the same black magic.

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  • ElevenOnly||#

    I was in Moab, UT over the weekend, and noticed a bit of propoganda that was on the outside of a convenience store. "E-cigarettes are banned where cigarettes are". It ended with:

    "If the fact that e-cigarettes are untested and unsafe doesn't deter you, then the fact that they are banned should" or some shit like that.

    I literally said out loud to no one "How the fuck do you know they're unsafe if they're untested!?!?!?"

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  • ElevenOnly||#

    Oh yeah, this bit of tripe came from the State of Utah, not the store itself. The guy inside the store was vaping himself, and was a generally cool dude

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  • Seamus||#

    Well, Mormons don't even like caffeine, so this isn't terribly surprising.

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  • straffinrun||#

    These Ecigs may result in some child somewhere realizing that adults still have a shred of freedom left concerning what they put in their bodies. BTW does there ever come a point when "the greater good" can stop being used as an excuse to make the majority miserable.

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  • straffinrun||#

    These Ecigs may result in some child somewhere realizing that adults still have a shred of freedom left concerning what they put in their bodies. BTW does there ever come a point when "the greater good" can stop being used as an excuse to make the majority miserable.

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  • Billy Bones||#

    Does it not occur to anyone else that Jay's stance on e-cigs would be more fitting of the Republican caucus, not the Democratic? Except for the fact that under Obamacare, only smokers may be charged a premium rate. Not obese people. Not drug addicts. Only smokers. If e-cigs do in fact cut the number of smokers, that is a lot of money the insurance companies will lose out on to help offset all the additional costs of Obamacare. Fact is, obesity is a far more costly problem than smoking, especially since less than 20% of Americans smoke, but well more than 50% of the population is obese.

    As a smoker, I checked with my employer provided insurance company to find out if I switched to e-cigs, would I still be considered a smoker for cost purposes. Not only was the answer a resounding yes, if I use ANY product containing nicotine, I'm a smoker. Therefore, if I completely quit smoking anything and everything for say 2 years (and claim to the insurance company that I am a non-smoker), and then I have a very stressful situation in which I desire a cigarette, but instead chew a piece of nicotine gum, I have in fact defrauded my insurance company. According to them, if at any time I am given a blood test and nicotine shows up, I am a smoker, no matter what manner the nicotine got there. Furthermore, the only smoking cessation they will pay for is prescription drugs, no patches, no gums, nothing.

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