"Inequality is the source of social evil."

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  • No. No, it's not.

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  • LiveFreeOrDiet

    Look at the opulence of the Vatican and its treasures and know they have not given it to the poor. Is the Pope declaring himself evil?

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  • This. If you are unaware of just how much, um, good stuff the Vatican possesses you are indeed naive.

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  • LiveFreeOrDiet

    With the net, just Google Vatican treasure and click Images. And that's just the public stuff.

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  • It's truly mind-blowing. Think of the warehouse scene at the end of "Raiders" where the boxes represent classical art museums.

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  • Look at the opulence of the Vatican and its treasures and know they have not given it to the poor.

    But that all belongs to God (by way of his representatives here on earth of course).

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  • They have the crashed UFO from Roswell and a complete set of Topps baseball cards WITH the gum.

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  • No, no, all of that was freely given to the Church in furtherance of its good works on earth....

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  • VG Zaytsev

    Well he did say social evil whatever the fuck that is.

    Ironically, material inequality is not seen as an inherent injustice in Christianity, which the pope purports to believe in.

    In fact, envy which is the source of much evil imo, is expressly condemned in the ten commandments. And blind hatred and hubris are condemned elsewhere. The three together are the central foundation of leftwing politics, apparently including the pope's.

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  • When did Jonathan Pryce become the Pope?

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  • Using the Catholic leader's name and the word fetish in the same teaser title probably isn't a good start if you're trying to convince any of the faithful of your POV.

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  • LiveFreeOrDiet

    I've also learned they don't like it when you refer to him as "Speaker for the Dead."

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  • VG Zaytsev

    The central fallacy of the pope and most of the left's world view is the belief in zero-sum economics. I can forgive the view on the pope's part because he has a pre-modern mindset where taking someone else's property was the fastest and surest way to wealth.

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  • Bardas Phocas

    Remember, he is an Argie.
    Argentine economics is a zero-sum game of parasites, looters and populist plunder.

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  • Inequality in the financial sense, or inequality in the sense of being able to get away w/ raping children by fleeing to the independent nation of The Vatican, while hiding your organization's own billions to prevent their victims from taking it away in a lawsuit over said rapes?

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  • Notorious G.K.C.

    Uh, the courts have been far more successful collecting damages from the Church than, say, from the govt schools with their legal protections from liability if their teachers rape students.

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  • Is Shika running this hit twice or has the unholy squirrel cursed the server again?

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  • Michael Price

    What really pisses me off about Pope Francis is that he claims inequality is all because of those who believe in the "absolute equality of the free market". Yeah because those guys are in charge of everything. Nobody who believes in government limiting or intervening in the market has any power whatsoever. If there was a God I'd ask him to give the pope cancer.

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  • First a Nazi Pope, then a Commie Pope. Can we please stop getting Popes who represent failed authoritarian regimes of the 1900s?

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  • Notorious G.K.C.

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  • First a Nazi Pope, then a Commie Pope.

    Would you be ok with a Smoking Pope?

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  • Jerryskids

    I realize that Catholics don't read the Bible, but somebody might want to point out to the Pope that there's a thing in there about not coveting your neighbors stuff. I think it's even on Gods Top Ten List of Things Not To Do.

    Or as P J O'Rourke wrote: Yet think how important the Tenth Commandment is to a community, to a nation, indeed to a presidential election. If you want a mule, if you want a pot roast, if you want a cleaning lady, don't be a jerk and whine about what the people across the street have — go get your own.

    The Tenth Commandment sends a message to all the jerks who want redistribution of wealth, higher taxes, more government programs, more government regulation, more government, less free enterprise, and less freedom. And the message is clear and concise: Go to hell.

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  • Rich||#

    Further: "Lay not up for yourselves treasures upon earth, where moth and rust doth corrupt, and where thieves break through and steal."

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  • Drake||#

    Beat me to it - so now the Catholic church has a Pope who doesn't know the Ten Commandments.

    "You shall not covet . . . anything that is your neighbor's. . . . You shall not desire your neighbor's house, his field, or his manservant, or his maidservant, or his ox, or his ass, or anything that is your neighbor's."

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  • Tim||#

    "I realize that Catholics don't read the Bible"
    Nice.

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  • sarcasmic||#

    NOT FAYER!

    NOT FAYER!

    NOT FAYER!

    *stops feet*

    NOT FAYER!

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  • Tim||#

    We need a Single Fayer system.

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  • ||#

    Nice.

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  • Notorious G.K.C.||#

    I agree with SD and *disagree* with the Pope re inequality in the West.

    I agree with SD *and* the Pope re inequality in the poor countries, the milieu with which the Pope is familiar.

    And it's my understanding, taking the Church's teachings as a whole, that the faithful are free to advocate free-market, noncoercive solutions to the plight of the poor and the arrogance of the rich.

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  • ||#

    "...taking the Church's teachings as a whole..."

    Totality of circumstances, man. Totality of circumstances.

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  • ||#

    I agree with SD *and* the Pope re inequality in the poor countries, the milieu with which the Pope is familiar.

    You agree with the pope that the unfettered capitalism of the Argentine economy is responsible for social disharmony, because greed?

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  • Notorious G.K.C.||#

    Take a look at what SD said in the article.

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  • Sevo||#

    Keep picking around in there.
    Sorta like the bible, I'm sure you can stitch together some words he's spoken at one time or another to make him look not quite so stupid.

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  • ||#

    It is all blathering by power-mongering sociopaths that use communism as a means of enslaving people.

    Hey Francis, go fuck yourself.

    Thanks Shikha. I was having a good morning and very thoughtful dialogue. This really pissed me off. I descended into advising the pope to go get fucked.

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  • Tim||#

    What the Pope says and what other people say the Pope said are two different things. There's been a concerted effort in the media to portray this Pope as a liberal in order to bash conservatives, and it's a dirty business.

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  • ||#

    True, I have not sat down with the man personally and had him outline his positions for me.

    Still, no matter the context, without some pretty heavy editing he is still spouting the politics of envy in a pretty blatant fashion. I know what that means, and I have not seen a single report anywhere from anyone of him refuting that. Given the power of the church I am sure he could find an outlet somewhere to defend himself if he is being slandered.

    This guy is a POS commie who has managed to get himself elected as the head of the world's largest, wealthiest, and most powerful church. It is what it is.

    He should take my advice and go fuck himself with a rusty chainsaw.

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  • Tim||#

    Harsh.

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  • On The Road To Mandalay||#

    The Popes are still "Absolute Monarchs". Read the book by John Julius Norwich. Anyway, the present one is a Jesuit, thee most LIBERAL order in the Catholic Church, so what did anyone expect when this guy got in? And yet he talks about equality and inequality but he continues to live in a world of luxury with everyone running around kissing his rear end on a daily basis. So, he can yap all he wants about the poor and downtrodden while he continues to live the good life at the Holy See in Vatican City. Yet another example of the never ending b s of the human race.

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  • Drake||#

    Liberal in the modern, authoritarian sense of the word. Nothing to do with actual liberty.

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  • Notorious G.K.C.||#

    The Pope actually lives in humble lodgings, rejecting many of the trappings of office.

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  • Drake||#

    Me too. And, I obey the Tenth Commandment.

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  • Sevo||#

    "Yet another example of the never ending b s of the human race."

    Uh, you can certainly include the Pope, but other than that, I think there's some projection here.
    We've read your posts.

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  • ||#

    Jencks' findings sound counter intuitive, but they aren't. Why? Because the real issue is not inequality but poverty: If the rising income gap between the rich and the poor stemmed from the poor losing ground, Jencks would have found the dreaded ill effects.

    It's almost like economies aren't zero-sum.

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  • jgradgus||#

    "But even if inequality due to the rising income of the rich doesn't affect economic and social outcomes of the poor, it is still possible that it is inherently corrupting for society." -- I think you proved Pope Francis point.

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  • Notorious G.K.C.||#

    Perhaps you could ask Tom Woods and Judge Napolitano - both of them Catholics who support economic freedom - whether it's constructive to insult millions of potential allies by calling their Pope a POS commie, etc., etc.

    This plays into the hands of the Catholic Left, to whom economic freedom is a heresy to be read out of the Church altogether - and in this they are More Catholic Than the Pope, since the Vatican has never denounced Woods' or Napolitano's works as heretical.

    What's with a movement which is willing to ally with actual socialists like Bernie Sanders and the Seattle potheads, but writes off an influential religious tradition which actually (look it up!) developed vigorous defenses at least of landed property and denounced arbitrary government. "Oh, but the Pope isn't a libertarian, so screw all the Catholics!"

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  • Tony||#

    Whenever someone talks about inequality, do you all picture the only alternative as absolute total equality? Because relative wealth is important. It's not just a matter of saying poor people in rich countries don't die of malaria and malnutrition, so everything's OK! There's the problem that the rich, if they are too far separated from everyone else, will have an unacceptably vast share of the power in their society. There's also the moral problem that a large amount of inequality definitely means that the rich gained their wealth through means other than mere industriousness--the system is rigged in their favor.

    But you're libertarians. There is scarcely a means by which someone becomes rich that is not only legitimate but praiseworthy. The real problem is how poor people feed themselves. Gotta keep your eye on the real abuse!

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